From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-wm1-f47.google.com (mail-wm1-f47.google.com [209.85.128.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EE3123AE for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 04:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=linaro.org header.i=@linaro.org header.b="FVC+H+T7" Received: by mail-wm1-f47.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-40839652b97so3334505e9.3 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 21:29:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; t=1698294556; x=1698899356; darn=lists.linux.dev; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=pMx657uezOJ5kmCTgoeA4HCR7tZ3spvjRGAv0FLPlKw=; b=FVC+H+T7N+RgO06dkxn0qk4RWGlj2dksFVYSYywR4q5OlPaDddZgeTAjn2kp6n38dZ 7nmxwIaHrd8d4LMzxhrwhijZw65ot3RpV037J0Dmo+ue0V3WLTN5RyycJRepRQuIKi3O bL2/vNHJokCdI4vDAD56Ab/LJy9Ff/ROKe4d3xBMHeqTyGwiR6AftDAKJGuF36fiWKAO J7NqJvc/oze2MUUp7eQ6Y/sBI/hNCaLOalngP/Rf2oryv1vtCji9kQ1IwmStAzhNn8Ts Fwwq+ruqpYKRnK5B+H352ZN/G4BghTwZJ5uS06XhdK4hMxdvcrJK9e683SBQK1uJOjRz Qzzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698294556; x=1698899356; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=pMx657uezOJ5kmCTgoeA4HCR7tZ3spvjRGAv0FLPlKw=; b=B8yCTkSU8WZOiTlauEMb0oXKJKv+oiQJ92BpbW+mtvvhq3Bly99SPCGSMMB3zPtw0T kd0AZEhlhooBEx16qlH0OsoYQzMeB7P9JhMbbIUfmmsWnMnndCygo4sVKF4adSylvstd 2BAJEzas4u3VuKKtE0c0c2KrNZLJp8lrGXnDNASGIwl/8fZ5w3SQKai0EDUzySGrsUf/ AbYDoUUbUd+4XBcxmI9uIHjLv68wZTOvKJukZds0mXm1H0xb8A4jTZUq0rUFtW63yMaz 5HI4CxKuRd1+JXN9OPKdHWxOuA9WM7FHMp+O/9gRDOK+60r+Z9uoImjCHC0sdBgZ+LZk Z3PA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwdlL7Ke0bB5YT6fNn9N8yXGFt0k2833FIyrPczd/u5ZDJefLF0 9OVKpd0FKCU2K7M60l8ZTMKjCg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFtEu9JZd5Mj+phH40fmg2CCAygbMyK5FuzrXPcDZ5lzRVQggILIz8W6yil4r/Yml9tjv8P0w== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:3b90:b0:408:37aa:4766 with SMTP id n16-20020a05600c3b9000b0040837aa4766mr13041643wms.5.1698294556619; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 21:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([102.36.222.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z6-20020a05600c220600b00407b93d8085sm1363441wml.27.2023.10.25.21.29.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 25 Oct 2023 21:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 07:29:12 +0300 From: Dan Carpenter To: NeilBrown Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Andrew Morton , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, outreachy@lists.linux.dev, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: KTODO automated TODO lists Message-ID: <092891b2-b1cb-4b95-bb6b-65e538378d99@kadam.mountain> References: <369bc919-1a1d-4f37-9cc9-742a86a41282@kadam.mountain> <20231023114949.34fc967988c354547f79c4e7@linux-foundation.org> <8ca50d4c-3c96-4efa-a111-fca04d580ab5@kernel.org> <169818295461.20306.14022136719064683486@noble.neil.brown.name> <169826846576.20306.981035382886610843@noble.neil.brown.name> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <169826846576.20306.981035382886610843@noble.neil.brown.name> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 08:14:25AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: > On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > > Please compare the numbers: > > 1. 1 sender removes irrelevant parts, > > 2. N receivers skip irrelevant parts. > > That is one way to look at the numbers. > Another is: > > 12 - fix about a dozen MUAs to summaries quotes properly > 12000 - fix an unknownable number of people to quote just exactly the > amount that their particular audience is going to want > > and when it comes to fixing-code versus fixing-people, I know which this > community is better at. We've historically been successful at enforcing LKML etiquette rules on everyone. This is just another rule to not quote the entire email when you're replying to a patch. If you're just adding a Reviewed-by tag then post some context but not more than a page. For a new driver, what I sometimes to is put a summary at the top. "Thanks. The only real bug is some missing error codes in probe. I had some other style nits as well. See below for all the details." I normally write the email first and then chop out the "no comment" functions at the end. (Sometimes I chop out the no comment functions at the begining and then I have to start over when I change my mind). regards, dan carpenter