From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D62582153C1 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2025 23:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754953417; cv=none; b=UxbujGrLy6tHq6USTl3Dl2hSUSXm3mKqwsBx8mFIdFko9OUu00Hut5MxKjFwIr6teM5eg/Qcrls4BHnmRCNMsjFabbDgfi09xkF8C4bFJNkfyMX2H16qS2ZorTFjAlIL5d4UOqOGnRvs2Hr3etJetFHJDXxR6R2iNbQGu0NlRu8= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754953417; c=relaxed/simple; bh=yKMj5wyV6/sQk1RaIyaBwN0m86Mc8KMugOvys47FmvY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=ZgjKATD3xwhI4qxCJZp6Swv0hKS58UURO0VLg5gYpExFhPuliQde69pF16IbqxFiuNQ54+dNBIj5wmEiaU4k5XyjI8kBCv8JCJroOa6RzL9IwFZ08MJ+XcGZlUxrNXqHnYy/fdlw+LXKwZybcKGrKtTnnOaDf1YP49GWyxJLpKU= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=Km5HrLgn; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="Km5HrLgn" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41DC4C4CEED; Mon, 11 Aug 2025 23:03:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1754953415; bh=yKMj5wyV6/sQk1RaIyaBwN0m86Mc8KMugOvys47FmvY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Reply-To:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Km5HrLgnkEpN2e4vpmx1A0bPazPF7J/ylz46UJvBwqngD3dwzAuWibPs7VzoRuGJD u3Qna3AHvPkDz6QpkGsyKsenVuq19uHl86IFJdIJS6mFZ+a7YrfbMuB+Y3GXb/XEdi gzv6E0ZvaeZw9o9+l3HpwNZbb/8GF2tFdrOYzGuggFbh65rSm7jLR93Ee3b1bgFei/ txo+E+VRcfRgnW6Iz30d2U28Zm6n6AF7Xm9yBnIBOQaP0c9DbnfEiA0d0/9R4393NP 36DoRIBj42h2sLg24phFmmeSRWKbsgcpz/jdRY1M19/kvw9k2jTdHBwYRjrwXwEfyg Sk1PdS/F22Fkg== Received: by paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD0CBCE0965; Mon, 11 Aug 2025 16:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 16:03:34 -0700 From: "Paul E. McKenney" To: Jonathan Corbet Cc: "Luck, Tony" , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Sasha Levin , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Annotating patches containing AI-assisted code Message-ID: <042b0357-3d0f-4451-85f3-631753343a8a@paulmck-laptop> Reply-To: paulmck@kernel.org References: <1npn33nq-713r-r502-p5op-q627pn5555oo@fhfr.pbz> <12ded49d-daa4-4199-927e-ce844f4cfe67@kernel.org> <87o6slbhap.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87o6slbhap.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 04:54:38PM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > "Paul E. McKenney" writes: > > > Another option is "The AI was trained only on input having a compatible > > license." Which, to your point, would to the best of my knowledge cut > > out all of the popular and easily available AIs. > > That option, of course, opens a separate barrel of worms: if we are > relying on the system having been trained only on compatibly licensed > material, then our ability to distribute the result depends on our > complying with the relevant licenses, right? Including little details > like preserving copyright notices...? > > Somehow, I don't really think that this option brings us much joy. All fair points! At the same time, I freely confess that I am not yet seeing an option that brings us much joy, at least for values of "joy" that include actual incorporation of AI/ML source-code output into the Linux kernel. Thanx, Paul