From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 17:54:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01a7d603-c0a2-7aae-8c8d-587063da5e61@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170619152055.GM3786@lunn.ch>
On 06/19/2017 05:20 PM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> Here's a couple of requirements that I expect from printk:
>>
>> 1) First and for most, is the critical output. Those of warnings, and
>> above. Basically all critical messages that can be used to debug a
>> system crash. This requires the ability to be executed from any
>> context, including NMI.
>>
>> This group includes WARN() and BUG() output, and anything in an oops.
>>
>> 2) Activity information. This too can be used to debug a system crash,
>> and requires serializations. When a device comes on line. A spurious
>> interrupt. A system state change (CPU going on or off line).
>>
>> 3) Status information. Now, I'm sure people will argue about what goes
>> in this or the above #2. Here, this would be all pr_info. Useful
>> information that should be logged, but perhaps not something that is
>> critical knowledge if a crash happens. In other words, something that
>> isn't critical to get out immediately.
>>
>> 4) All other kernel information that's not critical at all, and perhaps
>> doesn't even need to be serialized. At least, not against the above.
>> This could be cached, and outputted at a later time than when the
>> printk() was called.
>
> Developers machine probably have different requirements to production
> machines. When debugging during code development, i want the debug
> output to be in the correct order, independent of the level. If you
> are going to cause reordering, you might want to add a sequence number
> to each output, so it is possible to put it back into the correct
> order. And it needs to be clear when output is out of order.
>
I was under the impression that we do this anyway; even ATM every line
in the printk buffer is prefixed with a timestamp.
And we should continue with that.
Obviously, this requires that any printk buffer entry which is _not_
time-critical (ie everything not in 1) or 2) _cannot_ be broken up, but
will always end up as one record in the printk buffer.
If we could achieve that all the logging infrastructure in scsi could go
away and I could use 'normal' printk.
Now _that_ would be really cool.
Cheers,
Hannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-19 15:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-19 5:21 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 6:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 14:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 15:20 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 15:54 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2017-06-19 16:17 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 16:23 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 15:58 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:44 ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-20 17:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 17:27 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 23:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 7:17 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-21 11:12 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 14:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-23 5:43 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 13:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 12:23 ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 14:18 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23 8:46 ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 16:09 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23 8:49 ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 7:35 ` David Woodhouse
2017-07-20 7:53 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:09 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 16:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 16:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 11:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-24 14:06 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 22:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-24 23:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 23:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24 23:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-26 11:16 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-24 23:48 ` Al Viro
2017-06-25 1:29 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-25 2:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-26 8:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-07-19 7:59 ` David Woodhouse
2017-06-20 15:56 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 18:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-21 9:29 ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 10:15 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 13:42 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-23 9:07 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-06-27 13:06 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 5:20 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2017-06-20 8:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-20 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-20 15:26 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 16:35 ` David Howells
2017-07-19 6:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19 6:25 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19 7:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-07-20 5:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
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