From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
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Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
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Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] mm/hugetlb: Eliminate fake head pages from vmemmap optimization
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 09:51:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3563e215-1301-4c2e-8a4b-b690dfa643d1@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3v5hdubqnil6w54kimvbgapghj7irjp7xuqma6uxtsrpvj22ph@6t47vsevdwyi>
On 12/5/25 22:41, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 10:34:48PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>> On 12/5/25 21:54, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 09:44:30PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>>>> On 12/5/25 21:33, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 09:16:08PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/5/25 20:43, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>>>>>>> This series removes "fake head pages" from the HugeTLB vmemmap
>>>>>>> optimization (HVO) by changing how tail pages encode their relationship
>>>>>>> to the head page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It simplifies compound_head() and page_ref_add_unless(). Both are in the
>>>>>>> hot path.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Background
>>>>>>> ==========
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HVO reduces memory overhead by freeing vmemmap pages for HugeTLB pages
>>>>>>> and remapping the freed virtual addresses to a single physical page.
>>>>>>> Previously, all tail page vmemmap entries were remapped to the first
>>>>>>> vmemmap page (containing the head struct page), creating "fake heads" -
>>>>>>> tail pages that appear to have PG_head set when accessed through the
>>>>>>> deduplicated vmemmap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This required special handling in compound_head() to detect and work
>>>>>>> around fake heads, adding complexity and overhead to a very hot path.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New Approach
>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For architectures/configs where sizeof(struct page) is a power of 2 (the
>>>>>>> common case), this series changes how position of the head page is encoded
>>>>>>> in the tail pages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Instead of storing a pointer to the head page, the ->compound_info
>>>>>>> (renamed from ->compound_head) now stores a mask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (we're in the merge window)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That doesn't seem to be suitable for the memdesc plans, where we want all
>>>>>> tail pages do directly point at the allocated memdesc (e.g., struct folio),
>>>>>> no?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure. My understanding is that it is going to eliminate a need in
>>>>> compound_head() completely. I don't see the conflict so far.
>>>>
>>>> Right. All compound_head pointers will point at the allocated memdesc.
>>>>
>>>> Would we still have to detect fake head pages though (at least for some
>>>> transition period)?
>>>
>>> If we need to detect if the memdesc is tail it should be as trivial as
>>> comparing the given memdesc to the memdesc - 1. If they match, you are
>>> looking at the tail.
>>
>> How could you assume memdesc - 1 exists without performing other checks?
>
> Map zero page in front of every discontinuous vmemmap region :P
Good luck convincing memory hotplug maintainers about this added
complexity when making vmemmap ranges (un)available ;)
--
Cheers
David
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-08 8:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-05 19:43 Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm: Change the interface of prep_compound_tail() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 21:49 ` Usama Arif
2025-12-05 22:10 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 22:15 ` Usama Arif
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm: Rename the 'compound_head' field in the 'struct page' to 'compound_info' Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 03/11] mm: Move set/clear_compound_head() to compound_head() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 04/11] mm: Rework compound_head() for power-of-2 sizeof(struct page) Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06 0:25 ` Usama Arif
2025-12-06 16:29 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06 17:36 ` Usama Arif
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 05/11] mm/hugetlb: Refactor code around vmemmap_walk Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06 16:42 ` Usama Arif
2025-12-08 10:30 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 06/11] mm/hugetlb: Remove fake head pages Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06 17:03 ` Usama Arif
2025-12-08 10:40 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 07/11] mm: Drop fake head checks and fix a race condition Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06 17:27 ` Usama Arif
2025-12-08 10:48 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 08/11] hugetlb: Remove VMEMMAP_SYNCHRONIZE_RCU Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 09/11] mm/hugetlb: Remove hugetlb_optimize_vmemmap_key static key Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 10/11] mm: Remove the branch from compound_head() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 11/11] hugetlb: Update vmemmap_dedup.rst Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 20:16 ` [PATCH 00/11] mm/hugetlb: Eliminate fake head pages from vmemmap optimization David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-05 20:33 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 20:44 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-05 20:54 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 21:34 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-05 21:41 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06 17:47 ` Usama Arif
2025-12-08 9:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-08 8:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
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